IMO we should try and get everyone to use Zune interfaces.

One thing i hate about linux is the no. of different "crap" that basically all does exactly the same thing. The end result being no coherence between any of them.

Zune is quite capable of generating as good/if not better GUIS to the other systems. Sure we miss some nice components - but thats the point - if more prople use and develop Zune, it will improve, and they will get written as they are needed.

Another thing worth note - ive read posts to the dev mailing lists from some of the guis used on linux - and there seems to be a lot of posts talking about implementing features "like on MUI"...

The last point i would like to make is - if you object to using Zune, then i doubt youve tried using it - since its probably the easiest way to develop and control a GUI on Aros - the simplest examples can be found in the source tree under test/zune - real easy peasy stuff

ZUNE ZUNE ZUNE ZUNE ZUNE!!!

Hosted version needs no hardware drivers at all. That's what makes hosted so easy (relatively speaking) compared to native. If the host supports the hardware, it can be used transparently in the hosted version of AROS. I'm a little surprised no one has modified the UAE bsdsocket.library for AROS before now.

It's good to see someone has taken the TCP/IP bounty on. Getting native networking is rather important. Many people have commented that they'd use AROS almost full time if they had networking. It's one of the main deficiencies right now: networking, then USB. The two major hot points to take care of.

would be nice if people (devs) would start an effort to get aros compiled under win32, then perhaps get a propper hosted win32 env going.

I tried to build the native iso using dev-cpp and mingw but ran into a few problems with the configure scripts, and collect-aros (ignores that wait.h isnt found, and tries to use functions that arent available)

I also did a quick splash screen for use on a win32 hosted port if ever we get one -

(the dark grey areas are meant to be transparent )

well it would be nice if people would use/update the wiki books - its pretty trivial and far quicker than working on the websites cvs.

the links are on AEs menu on the left <--

AROS User Docs
AROS Dev. Docs

Perhaps if we can get it upto date we can use it instead of the docs on cvs (using its export feature to generate the docs for the iso..?)

Ok, i think that makes better sense, to have a survey. I shall start work on creating one, which i can host easily on my webspace, i think i have an idea of the questions to put in it, i shall report back here when i think ive found the full list of questions, if people can have a quick look at them once i've done it, i'd appreciate that as i may inadvertently miss something.

AwoL

I think it would be better to have a "survey" then post them in a thread. It would provide better data. Also allow us, (user type folk), to better come up with bounties.

That'd make for a whole pile of polls, could either list 'em in a post or maybe someone could make up a HTML survey & compile the results (I'm sure there's something out there that makes these for you).

No probs, thank for testing the mirror

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Yes, you have choice between numerous regular Amiga interface systems, as BGui or intuition/gadtools. But Zune (MUI clone) as some specificities making it a first choice, as its BOOPSI integration, OO design, commodities.library support, user font and theming preferences, etc. SYS/Prefs/Zune allows you to build a coherent look for your personal Wanderer desktop.
To remain source compatible with AOS / MOS, using Zune is a good idea too.

i must admit from the looks of Abiword, i think that would be a good option as a word processor, - am i right in thinking that GTK is effectively an open-source MUI/Zune-type thing? Although i can think of advantages to having GTK ported to Aroa & AmigaOS, i'm always tempted to think about system resources needed for MUI and equivalents. to be honest, if i could get away without MUI on the amiga i probably would. Yes it maks stuff look nice, but it uses resources.

also with Aros devlopment, has Zune been decided upon as the standard for user interfacing for programs, or can we still code using normal AmigaOS user interfaces and the apropriate calls?