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Re: Icaros 2.2.2 linux hosted unstable

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But now onto the next crash!

Instead then I go to 'SYS:Prefs' and run Wanderer prefs.

Here are my steps:
- Prefs
- Wanderer
- Appearance
- Drawer / Advanced
- Default View Mode
- Change to 'All Files'
- Click 'Use'

Immediate result Software Failure as per attached screenshots.



I finally discovered the root cause: there's something Wanderer prefs program does not like in Icaros settings. In order to fix the issue, just move global.prefs from envarc:sys/Wanderer to a safe location and restart Icaros. Wanderer will be 'reset' but, at least, you will be able to set your preferences for desktop and windows as you wish.

I could reproduce the issue taking the default global.prefs from current nightly build and, option by option, replace all default settings with the Icaros ones. In the end, I was not able to switch icons only/all files anymore without triggering the system error. I have not isolated the culprit option, though.

I noticed that default Icaros options saved a 820k global.prefs file, while nightly builds one is 915k big. My guess is that enabling some option 'trunkates' this file to a lesser size and, once saved and loaded at startup, Wanderer prefs file cannot handle it correctly anymore.

Posted on: 6/20 8:12
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Re: Goodbye and thanks for the support

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I myself do not use (or need) hardware in my job as expensive as Kalamatee asked, he says he needs it but I was sceptical that there would be enough contributors for that amount of money. Perhaps Kalamatee already was disappointed that people were not willing to give him the hardware he asked for, then perhaps the senseless discussions were the final point for him to drop Aros.


I wish to recap that

1. for what I could understand, Kalamatee never expressely asked for a Intel i9 processor + mainboard. That was someone else's interpretation.

1.1 I initially proposed a Ryzen processor instead
a) because I had one and b) due to similar overall
performances to hi-end Intel processors

1.2 I also asked why not using the i7 processors

2. Nick pointed out that he never asked for a i9 CPU, a i7 one would be enough. He also well explained why, in his opinion, he needed a Intel one. On the market there are affordable i7 models that can fit his needs.

2.1 Since the request was moderate and understandable,
Pascal and others offered their help. This community
actually COULD afford a similar-specced PC and send it
to Nick.

2.2 at this point, any further discussion would be
pointless.

3. A fairly useless "I know things better than you, you' can't fool me" discussion over AMD/intel specs began (with Cdimauro, at least).


For what I can say, some times I had discussions with Kalamatee, since we had very different views on things, and I could notice he does not appreciate to be adversed, or to loose time with further argumenting. And this time I can agree with him: after all, he made a modest request (NOT the i9-thing), he does NOT want to mess with a different architecture than the one he likes, he explained why he prefered the Intel side, and the only thing that this community should have done is just either saying "NO", OR sending him what he asked for.

Said so, I still hope Nick just had a momentary over-reaction and he will step back.

Posted on: 6/18 3:49
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Re: Goodbye and thanks for the support

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Kalamatee wrote:
Well, due to the stupidity shown by some people on this forum particularly, I have decided I will no longer be wasting my time contributing to AROS.

Apparently replacing my broken hardware with suitable components to continue developing is "cheating people out of their money" - and since I cant afford to replace them myself, I see no point in trying to continue with what has been an expensive and time consuming hobby.


Wow, that's a well-deserverd over-reaction against a community that already tried to do what it could, to help and support you: somebody discusses with you about processors specs on the technical side, and you leave the whole project.

Just to make things clear, here I have a spare Ryzen 5 processor I haven't yet used for any pourpose. I asked if you could use a Ryzen processor, instead of the Intel one you chose, just because I was considering to hand it over to you. Obviously, I would have asked somebody else to provide the mainboard, but I wouldn't start any request if it wouldn't be of use.

Posted on: 6/18 2:24
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Re: New Keymap

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Hi Martin

if you have any binary version of your keymaps and they're working with ABIv0 too, I'd be glad to put them into Icaros Desktop.

Posted on: 6/15 7:09
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Re: Icaros 2.2.2 linux hosted unstable

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MartinW wrote:
But now onto the next crash!

Instead then I go to 'SYS:Prefs' and run Wanderer prefs.

Here are my steps:
- Prefs
- Wanderer
- Appearance
- Drawer / Advanced
- Default View Mode
- Change to 'All Files'
- Click 'Use'

Immediate result Software Failure as per attached screenshots.


Since this is might be a bug, please use the included preferences as a work-around. Unzip it env:sys to test and envarc:sys to save.

Attach file:


zip wandererprefs.zip Size: 0.11 KB; Hits: 7

Posted on: 6/14 8:09
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Re: Icaros 2.2.2 linux hosted unstable

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Just been catching up and wanted to confirm I'm not seeing the crash when I open the host folder now.

But now onto the next crash!

So I noticed that if i go to 'Host' or 'Home' I'm not seeing my files (to be expected) so I select that I want to see 'All Files'. I then see all files, again as expected. So I 'Snapshot All' but it does not save. As soon as I close the window and open it again, I have to repeat the 'View All'


That's because you're using the wrong option. Snapshot > Window is what you're looking for. Then, you can Snapshot > All. Remember this is good for Home: but not for Host:, since you haven't any disk.info file in the root folder of your linux filesystem. You'd also need root permissions to place and modify one.


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I figure maybe this is a quirk of looking at a hosted file system so maybe it's fair enough. Instead then I go to 'SYS:Prefs' and run Wanderer prefs.

Here are my steps:
- Prefs
- Wanderer
- Appearance
- Drawer / Advanced
- Default View Mode
- Change to 'All Files'
- Click 'Use'

Immediate result Software Failure as per attached screenshots.

After a little investigation (not much I've been very tied up with work), it seems this is not unique to Icaros hosted but also all of the Aros hosted versions I've built myself too.

So I'm wondering if it might be something with Ubuntu 17.10 or my system in particular. Not sure what extra info might be helpful here?


This might be a issue (or a regression) of Wanderer on hosted versions. I remember using this option long ago on native installations with no issues at all. You know: there's a reason I prefer Magellan...

Posted on: 6/13 6:39
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Re: Core i9 Development Hardware for kalamatee paid from the AROS Fund!

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Kalamatee wrote:

I am not against AMD hardware, but certainly don't like the amount of heat generated by it or the cooling required. the point is they don't offer hardware features I need for debugging the code _period_ regardless of what peoples opinion is of AMD.


Hi. New Ryzen processors don't heat so much and don't need any strange cooling device. Moreover, the cooler comes in the same box of the processor. A 65W Ryzen 7 2700 is cheap and brings all the needed cores and computing grunt.

I wonder what "hardware features needed for debugging code" are perentorily missing from these new little beasts by AMD (that's a question, not a criticysm, so please tell me and I'll try at least to ask someone at AMD).

Here are the specs for the new 2700 series (and older as well):
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-2700

And some thoughts:
http://timothypratley.blogspot.com/20 ... n-is-for-programmers.html

By the way, if you wish to stay with Intel, a Core i7 8700K should be a good performer with a nice amount of core/thread available (6/12), much much less pricey than any i9 model. Maybe that would be more affordable by this thin community.


Posted on: 6/12 8:27
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Re: Icaros 2.2.2 linux hosted unstable

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Thanks, Neil!!! =)


@edit: added screenshot of host: volume open in Wanderer, from a limited user account running Icaros Desktop.

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jpg  222-hostwanderer-FIXED.jpg (226.69 KB)
106_5b1e7fa1438ac.jpg 1363X799 px

Posted on: 6/11 4:46

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Re: Rootless mode for AROS hosted

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How about porting x server for aros then you could have linux apps as own aros windows. Would be much more "aros" native then...


I'd be extremely happy to have a Xwindow server running on AROS, this would let me import screen from Linux applications running on the same network and, why not, from the host in a hosted environment. Unluckily, it seems no one with the proper skills/time/will to do that shares this feeling with me...

Posted on: 6/11 4:44
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Re: Rootless mode for AROS hosted

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Many, many thanks Georg. Now I have only to find someone to compile everything, while the scripting part shouldn't be a in issue at all.

Have a nice weekend.


Posted on: 6/8 2:58
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