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Re: So... what are we?

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im not sure why this needs to be discussed at all.

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Re: Vampire hyper threading and aros smp

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i dont see your post deleted. perhaps a part of it. i had one or two of my posts deleted or "censored" before, though i can even see a reason in these cases.

Posted on: Yesterday 8:11
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Re: Vpdf

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yeah, but maybe neil can look into this..

btw, its due to undeclared MUIM_Menustrip_InitChange. there are other contribs and even classes that work around this, like betterstring, texteditor and nlist. im trying to get it right also for vpdf..

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Re: Vampire hyper threading and aros smp

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yes, these appear to be current abi v1 aros sdks. however gcc-4.6.4 is still default compiler. the 6.3.0 is optional, you will have to compile it yourself.

it may be already possible to compile aros under aros, though i doubt if it completes. the most dependable option is still to cross compile it under linux. i am using lubuntu under vm for this purpose.

here is an example configure invoke from separate build dir on the same level as the source.

../AROS-source/AROS/configure --target=linux-i386 --with-serial-debug=yes --with-portssources=/home/wawa/portssources --with-binutils-version=2.25 --with-gcc-version=6.3.0

(portsources optionallows you to buffer source packages locally.) then you simply hit make.


Posted on: Yesterday 5:18
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Re: Vpdf

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ok compiled with 4.6.4 (the code needs some fixes for 6.3.0 yet). target amiga-m68k, but it will be the same on x86 afair. trying to open hello.pdf test file:

pdf file opened....
pdf stream created...
document opened....
media_box:40832000,0.
media_box:40832000, 0.
[Listtree] OM_NEW: unhandled 80004001.
[setuprecent] not implemented.


maybe thats some hint, whats missing.

Posted on: Yesterday 3:46
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Re: Vampire hyper threading and aros smp

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sadirux wrote:
Why the new toolchain is not publish with the SDK ?


i dont know any sdk that is published. probably along with a distribution? then its all abi v0, which is obsolete imho but kept for compatibility upgraded moderately from v1 where appropriate.

platforms where most current developments takes place,that is x64(smp), arm(?) and amiga-m68k are abi v1.
you will obtain the latest toolchain for your target compiling aros with "--with-binutils-version=2.25 --with-gcc-version=6.3.0".

Posted on: Yesterday 3:20
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Re: Vampire hyper threading and aros smp

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cdimauro wrote:

I know the situation that you reported. But, as I've already stated, it's not happy.

it wasnt happy to start with, but whatever.

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I know this also, but it's still incomplete for the pure 68K family, and maintaining a mega-patch over the regular branch is already not simple (read: it needs to be upstreamed to become easier to handle).

aros maintains patches to gnu toolchain all the time, without pushing them upstream, even though this is kept as option, we are now at gcc6.3 same as bebbo, so we are up to date.
also i have read bebbos patches and it looks rather cleanly structured, most severe changes are in few additional source files, while patches to the original sources are reasonably small. it is not ideal to have a compiler patched locally, but it looks maintainable.
also it is close to be complete i guess. toni wants it for aros and bebbo wants to compile aros with it. win-win.


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A niche fighting against another niche for supremacy / leadership / revenge doesn't change the situation: it remains a niche, and will not impact the real world.

as if i broke that war off or expected 68k to go mainstream again.

Posted on: Yesterday 1:38
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Re: Vampire hyper threading and aros smp

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I have absolutely no illusions about what can be accomplished, but I do think bounties stand a better chance now compared to the past.


im with you on this, even though i dont think we have arrived at a necessary point of awareness yet, but we might be underway.

Posted on: Yesterday 1:26
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Re: Probably my last post..

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he posted some comments on apollo-core forum yesterday. seems to be fine.

Posted on: Yesterday 1:22
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Re: Vampire hyper threading and aros smp

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Jason substantially disappeared.

jason has now a job that doesnt let him contribute.

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About Toni, I've reported a couple of links, and you should know the situation.


i think i know his position very well. i didnt mention him because of his opinion on apollo, which i understand, but because he works on aros(68k) nonetheless, one simply needs to offload him as much as possible while pursuing some issue, and then he will eventually come up with a solution. we were debugging apollo ide problems lately, that paradoxically let him fix long standing a4000 boot bug.

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deadwood (which might have helped on the 68K side) completely disappeared.

i told krzysztof from the start these bounties didint have a chance. now i think its real life interferring.

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kalamatee might be interested, but I think that bounties are needed in this case (he makes A LOT of work, and deserves some compensation IMO).

we will see. he did some sunstantial improvements just last days before the problem surfaced, also for generic amiga-m68k target.

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Not even talking about a compiler support for such new features, which is missing (and the plain 68K support just sucks).

we have bebbo with his m68k gcc6.3 backend.

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I don't have to tell you that the situation is certaily NOT happy, because you follow all post-Amiga forums, and you already know it.

actually thanks apollo it is not that bad as it would be otherwise. nge amiga is burning out, unfortunatelly, on all fronts, only 68k sustains at a low level admittedly. thats where ng led us ignoring 68k for so long.

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