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Re: Apollo core and AROS 68k

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Apollo will run 68000 code faster than any other 68K CPU.
I think there is no need to compile AROS for 68040 or so, AROS should fly on Apollo.

It looks to me more like there is some problem with AROS RTG on Picasso96..
AROS RTG looks slow.. a bit like running Windows in PC-Task ..

If this RTG/Picasso96 issue is "fixed" I assume AROS will feel many times faster.

not sure what the best approach here is...
Maybe doing a native AROS driver for SAGA would be the solution, maybe changing something in how AROS works over Picasso96 drivers.

An AROS developer would need to answer this.

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Re: Aros Crash bug reports - Where to place?

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I guess it depends on how fast the processor you use runs , but yeah an a600 should be as good as any.


The A600 is fast enough to in emulation boot Windows and use in - so our hope was that its fast enough for AROS too. :)


Thanks for your help to understand this better.
I'll email jason.


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Re: Aros Crash bug reports - Where to place?

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Actually we were only cross testing on UAE, as we thought all work work on UAE.

We in reality want to run AROS on A600 with 64 MB fast.
We figured that the A600 would be good to run AROS...

Is Jason doing the 68K port alone?
What would be the best way to contact him?

Cheers

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Re: Aros Crash bug reports - Where to place?

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Thanks for the reply.

No, I'm confused as on the same Website is states:


Since the nightly AROS m68k build is designed to run, unmodified, on *all* Amiga architectures (m68000 - m68060),
I always compile with -m68000.


Wouldn't this means that AROS should run on any 68000 ?
Maybe this is a misunderstanding on our side / or an english problem.

Let me ask it another way:
* Is running on 68000 possible ?
What would be needed to launch AROS on 68000.

Is it just a problem of the Bootstrap ?
Would it work with burning EPROMs?

Thanks in advance....

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Aros Crash bug reports - Where to place?

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Hello,

We started to work with AROS more now.
We face some early crash, which somone looks like illegal instruction in AROS nightly 68k builds.

I'm not sure it is an illegal instructions / could also be a UAE issue or a misunderstanding of our side.


The files we takin from here
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aros/files/

When installed in WINUAE with "WinUAE/1200 configuration" it ran fine.

When using configuration "WinUAE/600 (68000 CPU, ECS chipset, some FastRAM)" then booting from bootdisk-amiga-m68k.adf or from EmergencyDisk.adf.
Casued this error:

AROSBootStrap failed and report:
0x00000000 Address not found.



THis error was shown
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php ... ure08a600afterreboot2.png


If i modify the A600 config and just change 68000 to 68020 cpu (no other option changed), Aros manage to boot on ECS chipset.
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=344865Capture07.png

It looks like 68000 can not boot AROS-Bootstrap.
But on the AROS homepage it reads that AROS is compiled to run on 68000.

Can someone help and explain this?

Posted on: 2015/1/12 23:04
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Re: 68000 CPU roadmap

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As a possible Customer I would call compatibility necessary


It was very clearly stated several times:

* Phoenix Release No 1 does offer 68000 compatibillty.

* Phoenix Release No 2 is planned for next year and will offer 020 compatibilty.


Didn't this already answer all compatibility questions?

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Re: 68000 CPU roadmap

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biggun wrote:
Lets say I want to use AROS to browser the web, and to buy stuff on ebay. How much main memory would we need at minimum for this to work well?


If you are carefull, 384 MB can work, but 512 MB is better.


This is a joke, right?

512 MB for opening a webpage.
How can this be?


Posted on: 2014/11/1 13:48
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Re: 68000 CPU roadmap

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Caratacas wrote:
Wow! Looking at the useless popular Amiga Benchmark screenshot, I have one question...
How do I get one?


Vampire cards are sold since several month.
Update images for them with the new core or under testing atm.
Brave individual can get beta-tester loads fomr us directly on request. Best place is to ask for them on the Apollo-Team Irc channel.

The new faster and stronger cards are right now under testing and will hopefully be ready for release soon.



For me the key question is:

What sensible memory requirements would a next-gen 68K AROS system have?

Lets say I want to use AROS to browser the web, and to buy stuff on ebay. How much main memory would we need at minimum for this to work well?

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Re: 68000 CPU roadmap

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paolone wrote:
When talking about the 'minimum specs' of AROS, please don't forget this basic requirement: 1 MB of memory for our KickStart replacement, which AFAIR it wouldn't fit into a 512 KB space.


The card supports map-romming of up 1 MB images.
So loading a 1MB AROS and memory protecting is supported.

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Re: 68000 CPU roadmap

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What minimum system requirements would AROS 68k have.



At some point I created a single disk "Wandere" disk an booted it on plain A1200 with 8 MB FAST. It worked but it was painfully slow. My hunch would be 5x speed of such setup is needed as minimum.


5 times speedup should be no problem.
According to useless popular Amiga benchmark
our low end FPGA is about 60 times faster than an A1200.
The higher end FPGA card is abotu twice as fast again.

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