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Re: New to AROS/Old to Amiga

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Hey, my name is James Igou, and I own legacy Amiga hardware and PPC Macs I use to run MorphOS.
I wanted to look around and see what the state of AROS PPC development was like.

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Re: Hello

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What's Jason's last name and does he go by a user ID?

Posted on: 2012/10/16 9:29
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Re: Hello

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Excellent information.
I'm sitting here with a few Coldfire samples from Freescale.

AmigaDave kept at me to go to this year's Amiwest, but I just couldn't manage to get the time off (or afford the loss in income or the expense).

As AROS68K improves a Coldfire variant could add some much needed CPU power to the mix. I addition, some Coldfires feature PCI connectivity, onboard USB and network connections, amongst other feature.

If AROS68K advances to the point where it supports RTG, and sound cards, network cards and USB, building a system that has basic compatibility features should be easy (PCI supplying us graphics cards, sound, etc.).

While these systems would not be Amiga compatible (w/o a JIT interpreter with traps), they would run recompiled software (quite a bit faster) and they should be fairly cheap (much lower then a PPC based board).

Posted on: 2012/10/15 17:42
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Re: other ARM platforms

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I have not seen you pointing to a board, so hopefully this board is well documented. Documentation is absolute neccessary for a port.


DroidX based on the Samsung Exynos 4412 Soc.

http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_201 ... .php?g_code=G133999328931

And next year Exynos products will be expanded to include 2 and 4 core Cortex A15 based processors running at 2GHz.

Posted on: 2012/10/15 17:12
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Re: Hello

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OlafS3 wrote:
Hello to you too

I think I know you from other sites. Welcome to the "Aros-World"


Hi Olaf,
You probably do. I'm really fond of the Germans I've met on MorphZone.org.
Concise, intellegent, focused, and hard working with much better communication skills then my own.

Posted on: 2012/10/15 11:47
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Re: Hello

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I used OS9 Level II on a CoCo3. Had trouble getting the compiler(s) to work properly, though :-/ I was young & stupid. I think I might have seen advertisements for your company in The Rainbow.

Small world.


Yep you did. The company founder, Ed Gressick was working with Peripheral Technologies in Georgia to develop a Gimie based 6089 board for for PTK4, PTK5, and Delmar System 4 and 5 computers before he passed away.
Pity since we already had a port of G-Windows (a GUI much superior to Multi-Vue) and we would have been able to run 6809 Level II code along side 68K code.

Posted on: 2012/10/15 11:34

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Re: other ARM platforms

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Cool, I never gave larger cache size any consideration.
And I'm truly looking forward to the first 2GHz ARM processors.
Wondering if I'm going to have to rely on hardware floating point and what kind of OpenGL support there will be.

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Re: other ARM platforms

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cavemann wrote:
@iggy

I'm not a hardware guy so I can't really comment. Except to ask if you think its a better target than the Pi? It's more powerful but also more expensive.

Anyway I just wanted to say hello and welcome to Aros-Exec.


Yeah, I think it would be a lot better target.
I've got an ARM11 based Slvania netbook asnd its dreadfully slow.
It was all but unusable running WindowCE, so I had to resort to switching to a Linux distro based on an Android Kernel.

A9s are more powerful at comparable speeds and can clock up to 1.4 GHz. And the A15 will be even more powerful and clock at 2.0 GHz.

Extra CPU power is always useful.

And $129.95 places the Samsung based board at a price comparable to the less powerful Pandaboard and the only slightly less expensive Beagleboard.

Posted on: 2012/10/15 9:49
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Re: Hello

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Hello, I probably should have introduced myself as well (instead of jumping straight into ny first post about ARM platforms).
My name is Jim Igou and I reside in Milford Delaware.
From the mid 80's to the early 90's I managed Delmar Company in Middletown Delaware. We manufactured and sold 68K based computers that ran Microware's OS9 operating system (as well as running a Radio Shack franchise and a Marine Electronics company).
While I still have an X86 laptop, my primary computer is an FW800 Powermac running MorphOS 3.1.
The only AROS user/developer I'm familiar with is Staf Verhaegen.
I've exchanged some emails with him for the selfish purpose of gaining knowledge about AROS and to continue to encourage him in his pursuit of cross-platform software projects.

Currently, I'm interested in porting hosted AROS to ARM Cortex A9 and A15 processors and recompiling AROS68K for the Freescale Coldfire.
The later would have limited (if any) compatibility with AOS and its applications, but would allow the re-compilation of Amiga apps to a platform with 266MHz processors

Posted on: 2012/10/15 9:41
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Re: other ARM platforms

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How hard would it be to get hosted AROS running on a Samsung Exynos4412 Cortex-A9 Quad Core processor?


It will be impossible









because










OSes don't run on CPUs, they are running on systems. For a complete system you will need CPU, RAM, (Flash)ROM and I/O.

You will have to write drivers that supports the I/Os delivered with such a system.

The easiest way is:
Buying an evaluation system or an open system running Linux/Unix and do a X-compile of AROS hosted for this system and run it as a program on the ARM device.

But even with a AROS hosted system running on Linux, you will have little usage of the performance provided by the quad core system.



The board I pointed to (DroidX) IS a complete system.
And a Cortex A9 is light years faster then the ARM11 processors used in stuff like the Raspberry Pi.
Also, the first A15s will be dual core at as high as 2GHz.
So we're wasting less processing power.

Posted on: 2012/10/14 19:14
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