nikolaos wrote:
x-vision:

Fabian was never a AROS developer but when he desided to leave MorphOS he sold and gave away lot's of his work and that was ported to AROS.

Regarding friend OS I think it is exiting and I think it can have a very bright future but it has little to do with Amiga like OS.

It is sky based and you have to pay for all their servers, people keeping everything in tact. For some this can be a cheap and good way to gain lots of computer power. It is also a nice way to be anywhere and still feel at home with your computer as everything is in the sky. Your files, programs etc.
Just log inn from a web-browser and there you have it. Very smart but again not for everyone. I don't like to have subscriptions to whatever it is computing, movies, music or whatever. I like to have everything local. Maybe I'm old fasion but that is my choise.

In the end AROS never had that many users or devs. and there been plenty of reasons for that. As you might have noticed I try to promote hardware that run AROS in a great, stable way.
I'm totaly amazed of how far AROS has come and it is a joy to use.
I hope you keep in and help to boost development and user base.

nikolaos wrote:
I don't think Fabien work with MorphOS or anything Amiga related anymore.
From what I remember he got a kid and had to focus on family life.

I think the engine is difficult to update. That is at least what Deadwood said when I talked with him some months ago. He did not have time or interest in working on Odyssey but it is possible to ask again.

What I mean is that I think it is possible to implement missing features and do some bug fixes. Other than that I think we ask to much.

As you might know we have a updated ssl but it needs to be compiled for abi v.0
That should be quite easy for someone that have a development setup for aros.
At least that will make Odyssey more compatible as many sites require a more recent ssl version.

trekiej wrote:
I am working on C/C++. I got my books back out.
There is a slow progress looming over the horizon.

OpenGL is the theme and it will be a while before I can get it over to Aros, Amiga, etc.

cdimauro wrote:

Now let's see if we can stop here this discussion, as nikolaos asked, or some people wants (maybe need?) to continue whining like children.

nikolaos wrote:
terminills:

Sure people might have different visions. Most devs. in AROS world do what they like to implement, or what they think are interesting to work on. With little money I guess that is at least a good motivation. What I made developers do or wanted I think benefit many. Mostly I'm just reporting bugs or missing features.

I'm not sure I understand the Intel part you talk about?

Yes, I like Intel more than AMD?

I also like to see a reference hardware like ACER aspire one 110, 150.
We need some proof of consept hardware people can buy that works.
The never ending problem with different hardware drivers will never be solved in AROS land, but at least we can run AROS hosted or in wm player.
People simply have little time to mess around with all the tweeking to get AROS up and working as a normal good system.

My plan is to bring some more mothern laptop than ACER aspire one 110 to that reference standard. ACER aspire one never was a powerhouse and quite outdated by todays standards.
What I can do is to build some AROS version where everything is set up to that computer and all software with it will be well tested and working good. There are so much software on AROS that are not well tested and buggy as hell.

This laptop is not something I plan to sell but a model that can be found on lets say e-bay for cheap money. What I mean about plan is that if someone absolutly don't like to do anything themself. I could buy it and set it up for them. What I offer is a download of that version or you can buy a usb-stick from me. I will make videos of how to set up, use and configure the hardware and the system.
I also like to find Amiga key stickers to stick over the windows keys and maybe other cool stickers to make that laptop Amiga like.

For someone interested. This is a powerhouse and fully supported by AROS with some small tweaks. AROS runs much faster on this laptop than lets say windows.
You can also connect this laptop with vga out to a TV or monitor.

https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-latitude-d520/specs/

A quick search on e-bay and there are lot's for sale.

OlafS3 wrote:
He leaves because of one or two people talking him down?

That looks to me like a lame excuse. I assume he was unhappy already because people did pay him the hardware he requested and thought he would deserve. Pascal offered him hardware for free (i7) but it seems it was not good enough to him. Then the famous discussion started and escalated. Then he suddenly dropped everything and left from one moment to another. That looks like he wanted to go anyway, was no longer motivated and used only the chance to go.