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Re: (ic)AROS (xmas ed) - installing on hardware, ELF header to small ...

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I hope Dopus5 team read it and could test for them self, this problem do not exist on my virtual one, only on native.

Another problem adressed to the Zune team if they are active is: ZunePrefs: crash when selecting MailText and set font to Arial/16, tested on both native and virtual with the same result, after setting this and save, every attempt (for me) to access the ZunePrefs:MailText crashes the system.

Posted on: 1/24 15:10
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Re: (ic)AROS (xmas ed) - installing on hardware, ELF header to small ...

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Thank you... Yes it is working with USB Boot and by using (thanks to another reply) ATA=32Bit,nodma - the boot process is faster for some reason.

Actually I tried the same thing later on the IDE drive and did manage to boot from it and run some apps, but it crashed out the SFS handler or something complained on beeing unable to write (or something) to the drive, got a lot of requesters about it. So I did an reset and boot into USB stick again and that SFS handler (or something) said something about an unfinished transaction that needed to be adressed, it said it fixed it then everything did continue as normal.

However I have yet another question. When I click on the DOPUS desktop a screen menu strip telling me about free memory and tasks, the task strip is constantly counting down, I started at (when noticed) around -70 task, now when I am finnishing this post I am at -580 task and counting. Is that supposed to be that way? I guess not that is why I am asking.

Posted on: 1/24 12:36
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Re: (ic)AROS (xmas ed) - installing on hardware, ELF header to small ...

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I give up icAros native on this machine for now, would have been nice to have here because sound and network worked on this MB.

specs:
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CPU
AMD A8-7650K
Kaveri 28nm Technology

RAM
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 931MHz (10-11-10-30)

Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. F2A88XM-HD3 (P0) 35 °C

Graphics
Viseo 240DX (1920x1080@59Hz)
1024MB ATI AMD Radeon R7 Graphics (Gigabyte) 22 °C

Storage
931GB Seagate ST1000DM 003-1ER162 SATA Disk Device (SATA) 24 °C
119GB Corsair Force GS SATA Disk Device (SSD) 29 °C
74GB Western Digital WDC WD80 0JB-00CRA1 SCSI Disk Device (SATA)

Optical Drives
TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653Z SATA CdRom Device
Read capabilities CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-RAM, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R DL
Write capabilities CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R DL

Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio


There is unfortunatly no internal IDE connectors on the MB so I can't resort to that without the IDE PCI controller addon, and I tried to install Icaros to that drive as well, and access to it works in Windows and virtualBox.


But when booting in native mode, I get to grub screen, the black screen with all white texts, then it halts at AROS, insert bootable media screen.

If anyone have a slightest idea if it is possible to run (and how ) (ic)AROS native on this MB I would appreciate a hint.

Here is some other things/questions:

WHEN I succesfully install AROS, the installer only allocate a partion of 7.8 GB even if I told the installer to use the whole drive. -How to use whole drive? I have never before run into this "error". This is true both on the SSD SATA drive and then on the mechanical IDE drive (the 74GB drive), both installed to physical drive from VBox.



Somebody mentioned not to use DMA on SYS: drive and turn it off in GRUB,
I googled and found that one could do a IDE=nodma,
does this work for SATA SSD drives as well? or should it be SATA=nodma?

Could the CPU or some other HW, memory or USB or things,
somehow be (partly) responsible for the odd behaviour?

Last is it possible to log the boot procedure to drive or a USB stick
to see where things does not work.

Posted on: 1/23 12:04

Edited by azvareth on 2017/1/23 15:20:53
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Re: (ic)AROS (xmas ed) - installing on hardware, ELF header to small ...

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About the drive:

Changed settings in BIOS to emulate IDE mode, it worked fairly well, I could use the drive as intended, no IO problems at all.

However it took like 1 minut upto 2 minutes to get from the last textline in the bootprocess until Icaros actual booted into magellan, might be the PC drives - I do not know.

Stranger yet is, when I have had Aros (ICAros) up and running and make a CTRL+ALT+DEL and reboots into Windows, one of my drives is missing (A drive that is not shown in ICAros either - guessing missing drivers). The drive shows normally in Linux and Windows.

it is an IDE controller attached to a std PCI port and let me have access IDE drives as well, that is gone. conflicts?

Is there any possibility to get a full log of AROS boot saved onto the drive (or an USB stick) during boot?

[Late Edit]
Got the drive back for some strange reason, icAros has added *.info files for all folders to that IDE root drive, is that normal?

Posted on: 1/22 12:46
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Re: (ic)AROS (xmas ed) - installing on hardware, ELF header to small ...

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About images:

I guess there is something google ads to that page... or perhaps the OWB dont have all the functionality needed (yet).

I tested myself in AROS (virtualBox) and it did not show, then in the same machine with OWB trough https://www.browserling.com/ I did see some images, but later on it crashed, something about memory, perhaps to low.

Then I tried netsurf on 68k60 but that crashed also. I guess memory issues as well.

However it seems to be able access the images even if the visitor comes from elsewhere.

Posted on: 1/22 7:19
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Re: (ic)AROS (xmas ed) - installing on hardware, ELF header to small ...

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I will try to see if I could fool the system to think it is IDE or something via BIOS.

But as I said, I did install it via VirtualBox onto the actual harddrive (SSD SATA) as an SATA drive even there, the only difference was that I used the ISO file as a source, however the source is IDE.. The target HD I sat up to be SATA controller.

Under virtualBox when I boot from that SATA SSD it works, under native when I boot under the SATA SSD it does not as much, this suggest something else...

I have taken a bunch of photos, but don't think they help much, I did transfeer them to G-Photo but do not know if it works for anyone else https://goo.gl/photos/ETyUHJUHXHiuPjAe6

Posted on: 1/22 2:36
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Re: (ic)AROS (xmas ed) - installing on hardware, ELF header to small ...

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well in my case when it comes to read errors, it is randomly, works sometimes but most often not, one thing is that some procedure take a while, and then when DVD is not spinning it seems like before it is accessible again the system thinks the drive is missing.

I have tried about 10 times now with two different DVD types and with different results, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL, none of them is reliable, start to think I need to change the DVD drive.

I have removed everything not neccessary, a PCI Card to get IDE drives, removed main HD´s just keeping the DVDRom and target HD.

Now I am trying to install to HD via virtualbox and then try to boot it native. at time being there is no installation errors, but the DH0: partition will not be bigger then around 7GB according to HDToolbox, and I can´t figure out how to change that.


[Late Edit]
Yea, it worked I could boot natively, but got io errors on drive randomly "General Device failure" The disk is in an unreadable format

error code = 30
io_Command = 49152
io_ <stuff>

and all drawer icons became blue and lying down and files became like white small paper sheets.

strangely, when booting into Windows and using Virtualbox to access the same drive and boot up into the same drive, there is no error at all...

Posted on: 1/21 15:47

Edited by azvareth on 2017/1/21 16:16:51
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Re: (ic)AROS (xmas ed) - installing on hardware, ELF header to small ...

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I have a second question, how well does AROS (Icaros) work with DVD RW media?

Is it possible that the ArOS could modify files on that media on the fly?, personaly I doubt that, but I have to ask.

After doing the testing and the install stuff in previous post, I got from DVDBoot errors like disk not found and boot script error first at one occurance then later on multiple errors in script.

In Linux and Windows the drive where present tough with all files on it.

I changed to a write once DVD but have been unsuccseful so far to install AROS again as Installer can't find the drive anymore. Do AROS need a drive on the first unit on the PC hardware or is it up to me?

Posted on: 1/21 5:58
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(ic)AROS (xmas ed) - installing on hardware, ELF header to small ...

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I was playing around with the ICAros xmas ed, I tried both hosted version on both Windows and Linux...

I had severe problems to install on Windows 10 but did finally.

On Linux everything everything worked as excpected, no problems at all...

However, I thought I would try to install on HD as well and run in native mode, so first i burnt the DVD and booted right into the live mode, tested sound, it worked, tested network, found a driver that allowed internet access, don't know about the graphics (I assume it is VESA mode though).

Anyhow, I took my old AROS drive, SSD and put it in my machine. in liveCD I opened HDToolbox to find out the device number, and started the installer, which first wiped the old Aros install rebooted and let me continue to install, I choose to install everything.

Here I got a lot of errors when installing, Installer could not locate this or that different files several times during the process, my action was to skip that file at the time being. The last error was about installer could not locate OWB (note uppercase) in the dialog. However when I checked in the destination drawer, the OWB where there just in smaller case (owb).

I also choose to install grub onto the same HD as the ICAros went to in my case unit 6 as my main boot linux and win is on unit 0 then in BIOS I choose to use unit 6 as my boot drive.

Now I get a boot error saying the ELF header or something similar is to small, and I am stuck, does anyone have a slight idea to what could be wrong? and how to fix it?

Posted on: 1/20 13:46
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Re: Windows hosted xmas ed (various)

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I do not kbow, but my guess is not...

however by doing this, I got my hosted icaros to acknowledge the DH0:

in mountlist
DH0:
FileSystem = emul-handler
Device = "DH0:E:\winUAE Drives\IcarosDesktop"
LowCyl = 0
HighCyl = 0
Surfaces = 1
BlocksPerTrack = 1
DOSType = 0x454D5500
Activate = 1
#


and add a "mount DH0:" somewhere in startup..., don't know if that is how it is supposed to be done, but it works.

(well two icons for same drive on dektop though SYSTEM & DH0 , but it does not matter for me)

Posted on: 1/12 12:03
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