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Re: New hardware growing pains

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sabbate wrote:
You did not pay that card so much, maybe you should take another or a cheap but compatible computer I can recommend this.

http://www.ebay.it/itm/COMPUTER-Usato ... 0236b8:g:hO8AAOSwFe5X0FpN

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Thanks for the link, but I had very specific requirements for this build - small(ish) form factor, low power and fanless. Well, the latter one is still true but adding all the extra cards is making the whole thing much more chunky and building up the power requirements. Next experiment is to see if I could run the drives just through USB which would free up a slot. It all depends if the transfer rate for video files is quick enough.

Cheers,
Nigel.


Posted on: 5/21 6:41
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Re: New hardware growing pains

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You have not been so lucky with your hardware, but you have the pci slot you could put a sb 128 or live and the nvidia card in the pci-e slot

hi


Unfortunately not - PCI now has the uSB2 card in it, the PCIe 1 the audio card and the PCIe 4 the SATA card. So no slots left

Cheers,
Nigel.

Posted on: 5/20 16:28
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New hardware growing pains

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I thought I'd share some trials and tribulations I've been having getting some new hardware to run AROS native. Now, I'm normally the one glibly saying you should try different possibilities when you find AROS will not work on your machine - well, I think for that I've just been hit with a good dose of karma...

I'm trying to make a new machine as our house controller. I've mentioned before that we have an A1200 motherboard running our central heating system, but it's harddrive has started throwing up errors recently and besides, I've been thinking for a while of replacing it with an AROS box which will also serve as a video/music player and server. So, I decided to get a new machine for this. I wanted a fanless device (it's going to be in the living room, so needs to be quiet), small form factor (it's going to be installed in the casing of an old hi-fi, most of which is dead aside from the amp) and as well supported as possible.

I settled on a Gigabyte board - N3050N-D2P. The audio codec listed is given as supported on the hardware lists for another Gigabyte board, as is the ethernet. There are also three slots (PCIe 1 & 4 and PCI) as backup and it was pretty cheap (£29 with cpu fitted but no memory). The only worry was the USB3 ports, but as the specs also list USB2 the thought was just to run with those.

Box arived, and then the issues began. Not only were USB3 ports dead, but because the only controller was xHCI so were the USB2. Even worse, the onboard SATA is not supported - the drive boots the kernel but as soon as the native drivers kick in up pops the 'insatall bootable media' screen, with no amount of playing with GRUB options helping. Playing with the very limited bios options did not help either. However, I did have an old PCI to 2xIDE card lying around which did let me boot (slowly...) from a PATA hard drive - that's how I knew USB was dead.

So, back to online ordering. I bought a PCI USB2 card (NEC chipset) and PCIe 2xSATA and 1xPATA card from Amazon. On installing the SATA card and powering up, the machine couldn't see the attached drive at all. So I tried to boot off a DVD connected to the USB2 - and it worked! Not only that, once booted the connected SATA drive was working too. So, I think I'll have to make up a USB stick to boot off with just the media files on the SATA.

The other issue is that the USB2 seems to 'loose' the keyboard during the boot. I'll have to see it this is an issue with this particular keyboard, but one work-around I've found is to connect the boot DVD and the keyboard via a powered hub.

After his pain, it was at least good to see that the ethernet worked with the 8169 driver and the board was putting out a nice high-resolution (VESA) display via HDMI to our HDTV. The onboard audio is not currently recognised, but its vendor and device ids are not in the HDaudio list so it may work if these are added. If not, I have a PCIe audio card which I've tried in this machine and know works.

I had hoped to use one of the slots to add an nVidea card for native graphics, but if I do need to use a slot for the audio card then there are none left. There are some PCIe 1 port multipliers on Amazon that I could try, but that's more cost (and power consumption), making what was supposed to be a cheap system rather expensive.*

Anyway, I'll post up more progress as is happens.

Cheers,
Nigel.

*By rather expensive I mean above £100; the owners of AmigaOne x1000 machines may have a different point of view...

P.S. The USB and SATA/PATA cards were CSL - 4+1 Port (5 Port) USB 2.0 PCI Controller/interface card and CSL - PCI Express eSATA + SATAII + PATA (IDE) interface card.

Edit: Nope, no HDaudio - despite claiming to be a supported codec. Good job I had a CMI8738 card to hand. It also looks like anything except a hub connected to the USB is not initialised properly after AROS takes over from bios.

Posted on: 5/20 6:37

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Re: MUI Royale 1.6 For AROS

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Mistake or they do not interest anyone on the application Hollywood?


No - very interested from my point of view (I popped a 'thanks for the update' on the thread over on Amigaworld). It really does work brilliantly. I've been working more with the Rapagui plugin more recently as I've been producing programs for work (and hence which need to run on Windows), but actually doing that highlights all the nice features of MUI/Zune which are not available in the gui toolkits of the other platforms.

Cheers,
Nigel.

Posted on: 5/14 14:31
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Re: trying to boot on Intel Compute stick with no success

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Hi

I have the same problem, you found a solution?


You might want to try a nightly from the ABI1 branch - I think there has been some development there recently with regards to usb 3.

Cheers,
Nigel.

P.S. welcome to the forum!

Posted on: 5/14 13:54
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Re: OWB 1.25 graphics rendering issues.

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It might be worth you posing up the url's of some of the pages you are having issues with and we can see if we get the same. On the flip side, I presume there are some pages which must work fine for you on 1.25 - e.g. AROS-exec, amazon, youtube, bbc.co.uk to name a few. If these are giving you issues, then there is definitely something odd going on.

Cheers,
Nigel.

Posted on: 5/12 9:36
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Re: Mouse sync in Janis emulator

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I just circumvent the whole issue by starting up an OS3.1 emulation session on its own screen, Workbench and all. Sure, you don't get to run the 68k applications in windows side-by-side with native AROS ones, but it's easy enough just to flip back and forth between Wanderer and Workbench via Left-command m. And no issues with mouse sync - you just see the one pointer, although on occasion jumping back to the Wanderer you may find the pointer is in an inconvenient position and you end up clicking on something you didn't want to (like a close window button...) Also, the emulation is noticeably quicker when not running the synchronisation features.

With no disprespect to paolone's work on the Icaros sccrips, I like to use my own settings for Janus - I know what works well for my machines and like to keep it that way. That also extends into the emulated environment; it's basically a copy of what I had for my old A1200, with all the specific hacks and tweaks that I'd accumulated for it over the years. So it works in a way I'm comfortable with, and the lack of an integrated, seamless experience is pretty immaterial to me.

Cheers,
Nigel.

Posted on: 5/12 9:32
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Re: Mouse sync in Janis emulator

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In terms of the mouse synchronisation, is the Janus daemon running on the emulated OS and the 'Mouse sync' button checked in Janus' synchronisation tab?

Cheers,
Nigel.

Posted on: 5/11 9:21
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Re: Network issue for native installation

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Hi Mike,
NTFS are indeed read/write; I use an old harddrive from a Windows laptop formatted as NTFS as an external drive to transfer files to and from my AROS netbook and the machines at work.

Cheers,
Nigel.

Posted on: 5/11 9:17
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Re: Network issue for native installation

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Hi Mike,
The ntfs driver does work well, but you need to create a mountlist for any drives you wish to use - have a look from here onwards.

Cheers,
Nigel.

Posted on: 5/9 15:59
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