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Build an Aros based Amiga computer from scrap parts Part 2

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Re: Build an Aros based Amiga computer from scrap parts Part 2

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Enjoyed your videos Steve.

A few things made me wonder

SATA - why not use the SATA port but switch the BIOS setting to Legacy which is IDE emulation (pure SATA would be AHCI setting). That would allow SSDs and modern SATA devices But no TRIM support.

SATA - also try a SATA to IDE adapter. Then you could probably avoid the need for an IDE card.

GPUs - I know GTX460 works - Fermi chip and I used one with AROS before but also GT610/GT520 should work, also GT630/GT730 (those with Fermi chips - some are Kepler chipped). And of course GTX5xx should. Would be nice if the database was vaguely current (not your responsibility!!)

LAN - noticed you using Intel card... but PCI. Why not grab a cheap (£3) PCIE Realtek gigabit card ?



Looking forward to part 3

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@methanoid

Not all SATA supports legacy, mine do not and therefore cannot rely on it. The pcie ide card is a great option not sure about sata to ide adaptors.

Would love a gigabit network card please send me exact model that works and I will order one.

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Hi,

In most regions of the world the TP-Link 3468 V1 worked with the 8111 8169 driver.

But since V2 version came out 2013/2014 it has been untested (not sure if a later realtek chipset is used or another altogether)

Jeff

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Thanks for that I will order one and if it works replace mine.

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Hi,

Not a problem. Let us know which you get and if it works or not.

After watching your vids, do you copy directory / run OWB from RAM: ?

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Interesting question, probably a directory which will explain the writing to drive.

Ok, you may need to explain this more to me

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Hi,

The OWB directory / folder can be copied to RAMDisk:

I noticed you mentioned the compact flash card caching whilst OWB was in use. Might cut down the number of accesses made to the compact flash drive. Just a thought.

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Use ... tions#Fab.27s_Odyssey_OWB

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Interesting but I am to lazy and it is fast already

Part 3 of video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCs9lysH5IM

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Interesting set of videos clusteruk, I hope you don't mind a few comments.

First off, AspireOS was mentioned as alternative distro. But the libs have not been updated for years. So many current Aros programs will probably not run right, including Owb. It's a very nice lightweight Aros distro, but personally I would not recommend AspireOS at this time.

I think you're wise to go for Nvidia based graphics. The current Nvidia driver can run anything in the Aros arsenal.

Otoh, my Radeon x300 can only run Aros in Vesa mode. And the Intel 945 driver, which was good for it's day, is now outdated and lacks performance. Imo both drivers are overdue for an update, since many people just use the default graphics found on their converted 'Aros' computer.

As mentioned by others, some 'scrap' mainboards have a bios with compatability mode, so an IDE drive is not an automatic choice, depending on the era of the board. I would say the same about the Creative card. Many old mainboards have audio on board that is already supported by Aros (thanks in part to your efforts). Although it's nice to have that extra audio card, just in case.

Also, I agree that many OS4 users feel more comfortable with the official Amiga branding. I am not an OS4 user, but iirc, many of them also prefer the 'look and feel' of OS4, and would not want to step back to a more basic 3.1 style system, despite the speed advantage of using more modern Aros hardware. Another issue is that some OS4 programs are not MUI based, so they would not be available on Aros any time soon.

All in all, the videos were very informative for both new and old users, or anyone who would like to build their own personal Aros machine. You definately gave me serious food-for-thought on my next Aros system. And also kudos for mentioning the Sata situation. I didn't realize the issues with recent hardware. Thanks.

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