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Re: there is a plan for the transition to abiv1 for i386 platform?

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I personaly don't see benefits of having i386 ABIv1. It has simply taken too much time for it to be relevant anymore.


Personally I don't see the logic of supporting old m68k computers but not 32 bit x86 computers. To me having AROS runnable on old computers including 32 bit x86 is a wanted feature. But from dev resource point of view I think we should not do it by having to support two ABIs.

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Re: there is a plan for the transition to abiv1 for i386 platform?

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While waiting for the complete ABIV1 transition (which WON'T happen overnight), the "abiv0 refresh" should be made more frequently (at least every 2-3 months, instead of 2 years)!



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Re: there is a plan for the transition to abiv1 for i386 platform?

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While waiting for the complete ABIV1 transition (which WON'T happen overnight), the "abiv0 refresh" should be made more frequently (at least every 2-3 months, instead of 2 years)!




Hi. Great to know you are volounteering for this! Deadwood needed some help...

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Re: there is a plan for the transition to abiv1 for i386 platform?

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Paolo: No point being rude. It is not like what hal9000 said is wrong. It should have been like that. Not everyone here knows about AROS situation regarding developers and the management of the project in general.

I sometimes feel the situation regarding users and developers are very devided and even sometimes like users are worthless shit. Very good that people are doing something for the prosject but I would say it is far from a must!
The lack of beta-testing is pretty obious. It is another job that noone gives a shit about, but is just as important as anything else.
there are plenty of ways to support AROS and with more users I for sure know it is more money involved that again could boost development.

I think AROS could have made it's grave ragarding abi v.1 and how that been progressing. If it was not for Deadwood and the backport + the work with odyssey I would for sure be long gone (not that anyone would care, but I guess I'm not the only one).

What is needed now is some statement from the developers about what will happen with abi v.1 (Sure they not all agree)
After that we can focus on abi v.1 and no more need for backport to abi v.0


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Re: there is a plan for the transition to abiv1 for i386 platform?

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What is needed now is some statement from the developers about what will happen with abi v.1 (Sure they not all agree)
After that we can focus on abi v.1 and no more need for backport to abi v.0

Point is, that was already discussed (and fought over) ages ago.

Don't you think they (the developers) would know by now ... after all these years ?

There simply isn't enough manpower/hours to push v1 into higher gear.

If you'd take a look at abiv1 commits logs, then you'll able to see for yourself that work is constantly being done.

There must be about a zillion topics that still need to be addressed.

What would speed up things is more (skilled) developers that could help.

In that regards, Paolone's remark was valid and most certainly not rude.

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