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faster boot ?

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Hi,

I've seen in last versions of ARos (aspiros, icaros) that boot time is slightly longer than before.

It seems (reading the text on boot) that Aros is making several hardware tests on each boot. Wich can be usefull on livecd mode, but useless on a dedicated machine where hardware is always the same (for example, on boottime it 's always searching for ati video card, but my system is using nvidia only).

Is there any possible tweak for that, allowing us to speed up the boot time ?

Another thing, is it possible, once we're happy with our configuration, to hide ("no verbose"?) the boot text (drivers searching, etc...) and perhaps, put a nice boot image (or even animated gif) instead ?



thanks

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Yep i feel a delay too.
But there must be another reason.. the checks where there before too.. maybe AROS checks now even more?

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I think you would need to compile the Aros kernel yourself and remove/edit manually all the debug output (eg. PCI and all other subsystem outputs) as they always seem to print something on the screen. Put some D() macros around them.

There's some hardcoded(?) delay for the USB stack and I think that could be coded more wisely.

For the Ati issue I think it is enough if you just delete the driver.

One of the most active device to output on the screen is ata.device, I can understand why but when it is working it's outputs have no value for the user, maybe the debug output for ata.device could be turned on with a grub line? ATA=xxx,debug ? Now there is no way to silence it all together.

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Latest versions of Icaros Desktop boot longer just because there are more services to start, more packages with paths to assign, more things to run at startup. Nothing more, nothing less. And it also hides the startup messages by running VESA drivers at startup, even when native drivers are loaded after. This will ensure at least a suitable screen mode will be chosen whatever the hardware is, and has the nice side effect to "cover" all these "meaningless" (for most people) idioms at startup. ;)

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AspireOS does not take any longer to boot than before. This is up to the BIOS of your computer and in some cases the drivers and whatever you have in wb-startup, user-startup.
Example: If you have enabled wifi, AROS will use 3-4 sec extra.

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@Nikolaos : I have to admit that I tried Aspiros only one time before (and tested deeper the last version recently).

On Icaros, not speaking of the bios start, the boot seems slightly longer (it's the distro I tested the most). But it's fine if it's simply the result of more features.

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Now there is no way to silence it all together.


That would be a cool feature, hidding the verbose text with a nice image (like in ubuntu, or on amigaNG, morphos or OS4).



Anyway, I'll take a look on startup sequence.



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I think you would need to compile the Aros kernel yourself and remove/edit manually all the debug output (eg. PCI and all other subsystem outputs) as they always seem to print something on the screen. Put some D() macros around them.


OUch. ^^

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For the Ati issue I think it is enough if you just delete the driver.


I'll try it and come back here.



thanks for your answers.



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demether: I agree about some nice image showing up, instead of
the debug text. I'm not sure how to do that, but I remember the "Sponsored by ClusterUK" splash screen in the past.

At the same time loading a image might set you back 1 sec.. or so, talking about boot time ;)

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Perhaps something can be done with grub.cfg ? I remember reading linux threads about grub options like that (I believe).


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That would be a cool feature, hidding the verbose text with a nice image (like in ubuntu, or on amigaNG, morphos or OS4).


That would be great.

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Shufflepuck: you know who have to do that picture at least for AspireOS :P

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